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NATO Phonetic Alphabet

I remember in my boyhood hearing on the radio that the British Army and, presumably, the other services was changing overnight in the interest of what NATO calls interoperability. There was much amusements that dispatch riders were to be delta romeos. I'm not sure that's any more suggestive than dog rogers. I've seen this described as the US Navy alphabet, but the UK equivalents were clearly identical or very similar.

I learned this in the Korean Army because we worked with U. Most of them were pronounced as in regular speech, but 5 was pronounced as 'fife' and 9 as 'niner'. In addition, 4 was given an exaggerated disyllabic pronunciation to rhyme with 'blower'. The Wikipedia article confirms this but also adds that 3 is to be pronounced 'tree'.

I might be wrong, but I don't remember learning this. Unlike the other altered pronunciations which help to distinguish the digits e. Since we had no such troubles being already fluent in English, maybe the alteration was thought unnecessary. Jongseong Park. I'd guessed wrongly that it represented a rhyme with flour , chosen based on the spelling of four.

Inadequacy of respelling scheme demonstrated empirically Wikipedia also lists a Russian equivalent. My wife tells me that ordinary Russians don't know this list. That is to say, Russians who haven't served in the forces or the police don't use it — or didn't when Elena lived in Russia. In which case, the masculine adjective here all the more suggests "Ivan the Short". The root korotk- is native Russian, whereas kratk- is a cognate borrowed from Old Church Slavonic.

Russian has many such doublets, like golova 'head of body ' native and glava 'head of organization , chapter' OCS as well as gorod 'city' native and -grad 'city in compounds ' OCS. Alpha beta golf foxtrot I've been familiar with this alphabet for about fifty years since studying for my radio amateur's licence and the one choice that has always struck me as odd is that of "golf", which JW tells us is to be pronounced as if it were "gulf".

I wonder whether this was ever discussed. Philip Taylor. The ersatz pronunciation "papper" is the province of badly-directed child actors in rubbish period dramas. As I never used "Papa" to address my late father, the pronunciation I used in this context is guided more by analogy than anything else, and the vast majority of the 26 words have stress on the initial syllable the exceptions being ho'tel, No'vember, Que'bec, si'erra, as far as I can see so for probably that reason alone I use the "papper" version that you deprecate.

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That was what we used to call this in English usage when we used to use it in English language usage. I think that is an earlier army phonetic alphabet. Everybody had their own version of the phonetic alphabet for radiotelephony. The Alpha, Bravo. Civilians do whatever they like: "A" as in aisle, "C" as in Cedric, etc - Shelley Berman had a good skit on this subject somewhere in the dim past.

Yes, an earlier army alphabet it is, and its first letter was "able", not "Abel". Okay, all the alcohol's out of the system. So much for trusting one's addled memory. Thank you all, brethren and cistern in English usage, for the corrections. Sorry about the ones I couldn't remember. Each of the alpha signs was divided into ten numerical signs, enabling taxicabs to be individually identified.

I do remember that "Don 1" was a sought-after call-sign. Probably still is. Z should be "zulu. No, they don't. Any reason why you think they might. I'll take five. I especially like the whooshing sound of them as they go flying by. IBM used to s or so use that one, or a variant. If it is the same, I can fill in the "L" space. I was a civilian writer-illustrator with the University of California Division of War Research, and one of our editors was named E.

He became known as "Easy Love" Jones -- so there's the "L" -- "love. You are forgiven. I thought maybe "metaphor or parody" would be more appropriate to describe it. The whole thing, from memory but at least I'm sober this time: able, baker, charlie, dog, easy, fox, george, how, item, jig, king, love, mike, nan, oboe, peter, queen, roger, sugar, tare, uncle, victor, william, xray, yoke, zebra.

This is not the only known variant, but I found it originally in a WWII Navy communications text, so I assume it had official status at some point. Bob Lieblich. You look at your passport. If it's a British passport, you're British. Sheesh, Bun, don't you know anything. Some were used more often than others, in diffeent pin numbering schemes.

That should be "How do you know. Honda classic leaderboard 2021 Are you British. I know because The British would have no reason to put an 'eee' sound before the 'zed' when naming that letter. Only by heritage. I'm still waiting for the first five I asked for. The old US military phonetic used "Roger. The single-letter meaning for Roger was "I understand or have received your message," as in "Roger, wilco" I understand and will comply.

This has gone into mariners' language and probably other folks' as well in such expressions as "Yeah, roger," or "Roger that," meaiing"You betcha. Several common errors occur in this setting. One of the most glaring is "Over and Out. No reply is necessary. Not so. While you might argue that 'wilco', which is an abbreviation of 'will comply', contains an implicit 'I understand', as well as an implicit 'message received', it is by no means explicit in the term 'wilco'.

While just 'out' would do the trick, 'over and out' makes it clear that the person on the other end is free to have the last word. I wouldn't call it an error. There is no redundance at all, at least not in standard NATO military radio voice procedure - the usage in some national military and civilian organizations may differ. These are two separate responses. A commander receiving an order to move his troops could reply "wilco".

If the same order was received by his signaller the reply would be "roger", because the signaller does not have the authority to comply. All such words known as prowords in radio voice procedure have very specific meanings. The French equivalent is "a vous", while the Italian and Spanish equivalent is "cambio" - the meaning is clear. As Armond writes, no reply is necessary. John L.

My comments are based on stand radio procedure. Taking a slightly broader view, I don't imagine this is too great a problem. Alpha beta golf foxtrot Surely within the fraternity of radio communications professionals there are subsets similar to those in a. There's probably even a "Radio Neil. We often say and hear a modification like "roger, out.

I am ending this communication and expect no further reply. If we were to have a list of least favourite words to parallel the current favourites list, mine would without hesitation be "judgemental". A few notes: First, "list" usually implies more than one entry.